Hi friends 👋🏽 -
Thank you so much to all of you who listened to last week’s minisode and for all the love on my comeback! You made my heart grow a few sizes 💗
Today’s episode is the first interview I’ve released in a while and honestly, it stuck with me.
My guest today is Michelle Moffitt, a therapist, coach, and author who spent 25 years as a pastor’s wife inside a conservative church community. For a long time, she believed that if she did everything right, followed the rules, gave more, prayed more… it would all work out.
But when things got hard and she finally spoke up, the system she trusted told her to repent.
This conversation is about more than just faith and career decisions — although being a pastor’s wife was in many ways a full time job. It’s about certainty, burnout, identity, and what happens when the life you’ve built is rooted in a system that no longer feels safe.
We talk about:
The myth of psychological safety in rigid systems
What it takes to leave the life you’ve built around someone else’s rules
Rebuilding intuition after being “gut-washed”
Using tools like the Enneagram, movement, and your personal board of directors
And what rediscovery actually looks like after decades of performing
Whether you’ve left a church, a relationship, a job, or just a version of yourself that no longer fits — I think this one will hit home.
Thanks for being here. I hope this one meets you where you are.
Keep scrolling for Michelle’s bio, a free Enneagram test, a challenge inspired by the episode, and a cookie recipe I might actually try.
Abrazos,
M
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✨ About Michelle Moffitt:
Michelle Moffitt is a therapist, coach, and speaker who helps people navigate change, set boundaries, and rebuild their sense of self. She’s an overly optimistic Enneagram 7, a mom of five, and the author of Cracked Open, a memoir-meets-guidebook for breaking free from limiting beliefs. She lives in the Pacific Northwest with her partner and believes in coffee, good food, and telling the truth.
📘 Michelle’s book is out now!
It’s called Cracked Open, and it’s part memoir, part guidebook for breaking free from limiting beliefs. You can grab it here.
🧰 From The Toolbox
Curious about your Enneagram type? Michelle and I talk about how the Enneagram helped her unlearn what she was told she should be — and understand how she actually shows up in the world.
If you’ve never taken it (or forgot what you got), this free test is a great place to start.
They say when you read your true type, you might feel a little called out. 😅 Let me know what you get.
🧪 Homework (But Not the Lame Kind)
Michelle’s story reminded me that one of the hardest — and most freeing — parts of change is figuring out what you actually like.
So here’s your assignment:
Try something new: Taste a weird ice cream flavor. Take a different route home. Go to an art show. And when you do — really ask yourself, “How do I feel about this?” If you love it, great. If you hate it, you’re one step closer to knowing more about yourself.
Reclaim something you already know you love: That thing you secretly enjoy but downplay because it’s “too much,” “too silly,” or “not productive”? Do that. With no explanation. Lean in and enjoy the hell out of it.
Remember: You get to decide who you are.
(P.S. I once tried improv and absolutely hated it. Quitting felt like freedom. Turns out “not for me” is a perfectly valid conclusion.)
🎈 Just for Funsies
Michelle’s cookie metaphor in the episode made me realize how long it’s been since I’ve baked. Here’s what I’m considering this week:
My go-to “cookie” isn’t technically a cookie. I have a family recipe that’s kinda like this one. I don’t have a link for the the one I make, but you get the vibe.
Or, I might try this version of the Milk Bar Cornflake Marshmallow Chocolate Chip Cookies 🤤
If you try either of these, let me know! Or send me your favorite recipe — I’m always looking for something fun to make.
💖 Thanks for being here!
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